
Sid LoweJul 16, 2025, 10:00 AM ET
SEVILLE, Spain -- "I don't sing precise well," Johnny Cardoso says. "I similar to play football." And with that, the United States midfielder, and new Atlético Madrid signing, starts laughing. "But I got up connected a seat successful beforehand of everyone, and I started to sing, and I chose this song: Maroon 5, 'Payphone.'" If his initiation determination is thing similar it was with the nationalist team, astatine slightest helium knows what he's doing. Back then, it went beauteous well; aft all, he'd been practicing for years.
It was November 2020, and it was an unexpected choice, perhaps, but not a accidental one; this was a way that connected Cardoso to location successful Brazil, different time. And, helium hoped, it would link him here: a caller time, a caller place. There was thing applicable astir it, too. "I'm astatine a payphone, trying to telephone home; each of my change, I spent connected you." There were galore words Johnny didn't cognize successful English -- galore helium inactive doesn't -- but these were words helium did; words helium had heard truthful often, that meant something. Sitting successful the sunshine, recalling that infinitesimal and galore more, helium smiles.
"When I was successful Porto Alegre, my dada would travel and get maine connected the bus, this was the euphony we would perceive to, truthful it was already successful my head," helium tells ESPN, speaking Spanish, earlier this summertime earlier his determination from Real Betis to Atlético Madrid was completed.
The archetypal clip helium heard the song, Johnny was a kid 200 miles from home, chasing a imagination and, arsenic helium puts it, "living unsocial and facing a unit idiosyncratic that property shouldn't unrecorded with." Some days helium thought helium couldn't bash it and conscionable wanted to spell back, calling his parents successful tears. They would travel whenever they could, each the mode from Criciúma, and assistance him done it. Now, present helium was lasting earlier the USMNT, his team, for the archetypal time. Standing connected a chair, singing the aforesaid song. "Where person the times gone? Yeah, I cognize it's hard to retrieve the radical we utilized to be." He didn't talk English, but helium could sing this, and the squad would understand.
This time, it volition beryllium different. It volition erstwhile it comes to the track, astatine least. As for the remainder of it, well, that should beryllium easier, adjacent aft a frustrating summertime with the USMNT. At nine level, Atlético is simply a measurement up: a caller beginning, a bigger club: much pressure, a antithetic benignant of play. But they are convinced by him, moving to person Betis and the subordinate to crook their backs connected a woody that gave Tottenham Hotspur priority. This feels similar the close determination to him, too. particularly with the biggest prize of each awaiting astatine the extremity of his debut season: playing astatine the FIFA World Cup, for the hosts.
Spain has been location for a twelvemonth present and the connection present is nary barrier, his Spanish spoken softly, astir gently, the slightest hint of a lisp and Brazilian touch. Besides, if thing has defined Cardoso it is that each caller step, each caller challenge, is met. Even if it does mean lasting connected a seat and singing.
Start again? Okay, then. He's done it before. Here's Johnny.
If you're funny astir what connected the Brazilian named João Lucas de Souza Cardoso -- who grew up successful Santa Catarina state, developed arsenic a subordinate with Internacional of Porto Alegre, moved to Real Betis successful Spain and doesn't talk English -- to the United States, well, helium was too. So his parents showed him.
"I'm a lad who comes from a Brazilian family," Johnny says. "My begetter and parent went to unrecorded successful the U.S. I was calved determination [in Denville, N.J.] but near aft conscionable 3 months. It was the clip of the onslaught connected the Twin Towers: That was September 11, and I was calved connected September 20. But precise soon, we went backmost to Brazil, and that's wherever I grew up. My household was precise into athletics and my imagination since I was tiny was football. My dada had been a goalkeeper, though not professionally. I played, similar each kid successful Brazil. I didn't person memories [of the U.S.]. And past 1 time we went backmost and visited the location wherever I had lived.
"We went up to the location and knocked astatine the doorway and met the radical surviving determination now. If I retrieve right, they were a Mexican family. We took immoderate pictures of the house, we went to the infirmary wherever I was born. And my ma and dada started telling maine stories astir our beingness there. Those are precise bully memories. They told maine the things they had been done there, each astir their life, the clip spent successful that house, and I truly felt it.
"They enactment successful ceramics present successful Brazil but erstwhile they lived successful the U.S., my dada delivered pizzas. He worked connected gathering sites. They lived determination for 4 years successful all. My dada went first, past ma went to articulation him, looking for enactment arsenic well. They had gone looking for a dream. It is determination they had ever wanted to live, and the accidental came up. They were determination for 4 years successful total. They went, came backmost to Brazil for a spot and past returned. And it was successful that 2nd spell that I was born.
"My dada started calling maine Johnny and yet everyone knew maine arsenic Johnny. It started arsenic thing fun, but it stuck. It's weird for maine present if anyone calls maine João, and I don't adjacent react; ever since I was a kid, it was, 'Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny...' I similar that. It's similar my thing, a trademark, my individuality and I'm blessed with it."
The evident question remains, though: why? Why America? Why not Brazil? Johnny says helium ever knew helium could play for the U.S. due to the fact that helium had been calved there, but ne'er thought helium would. Never truly thought astir it astatine each successful fact. And erstwhile the telephone came, it wasn't truly a lawsuit of making a choice, of agonizing implicit it; it was the logical adjacent step. There was a connection, an opportunity.
"The archetypal clip was with the U23s, and from determination I kept getting the chance," helium says. "I had nary doubts, nary determination to make. I didn't person the accidental with Brazil, I didn't person anyone coming to speech to me. It was conscionable natural. And each clip I go, I emotion it much and effort to beryllium much portion of it.
"The archetypal clip was hard. I was very, precise tense with the language, which I didn't talk astatine all. I near [Criciúma] young and didn't truly person the accidental to larn English with my ma and dada [at home]. I took classes successful Porto Alegre and I'm inactive taking them now. But to truly talk English you person to practice, you person to beryllium surrounded by it. I try. Of people I try. I ticker films successful English. I perceive to English successful music. I emotion euphony successful English."
Which is wherever the communicative comes out, lasting connected a seat singing "Payphone." "My dada ever listened to U2, to Maroon 5. He has bully taste." Johnny laughs, past concedes: "It's not the emblematic footballer taste."
Music has besides helped him with his English. "I larn much than doing classes," helium says. It's not easy, but his efforts person not gone unnoticed by his teammates. "He's a truly bully guy: He's quiescent but helium ever trains well," U.S. teammate Luca de la Torre says, portion Jack McGlynn adds, "He ever has a grin connected his face, trying to marque friends with each the caller faces here."
Johnny recalls, "The archetypal clip I went, I couldn't talk immoderate [English] really, but I had a wide thought successful my head: 'I'm going to play football. [Even] If I can't pass with them disconnected the pitch, connected the transportation I will.' And that was however it went. ... There were players who talk Spanish and that helps a lot. They each truly welcomed me."
Then there's USMNT manager Mauricio Pochettino, who is from Argentina. "That helps a bit," Johnny says. "But, honestly? It depends connected maine and my football. It's not the connection that volition enactment maine connected the transportation to play. Him having Spanish tin assistance maine a bit, but my mentality is ever connected the pitch, trying to bash my best, trying to amended technically, physically, mentality. I'm determination to assistance my teammates. It's astir what I tin connection connected the pitch."
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It hasn't been the champion summer, helium knows; unwellness and an ankle wounded reduced Cardoso to conscionable 11 minutes successful the radical signifier of the Concacaf Gold Cup and not 1 aft that arsenic the hosts reached the final, wherever they mislaid to Mexico. This isn't the mode it was expected to be; it is besides not, helium trusts, the mode it volition be.
But determination is time, qualities that travel from a operation of influences; there's a thoughtfulness astir the crippled that is instantly evident too. At that archetypal U.S. call-up, erstwhile manager Gregg Berhalter said helium could "tell" Cardoso was Brazilian, and determination was thing successful that, thing successful his development. He saw a hint of the thoroughfare footballer successful the midfielder, a toughness to spell with the technique, a carnal quality that acceptable him apart. Some of it was natural, immoderate of it taught. In Spain, determination has been a "Europeanization" of his game, an enlargement of it, an progressively proactive relation astatine Betis, versatility too.
"He's conscionable specified a prime player," McGlynn says. "He's precise talented; there's thing helium lacks." That is 1 of galore reasons wherefore Atlético manager Diego Simeone wanted him, opening the doors to the elite.
Cardoso looks to 1 of Brazil's all-time large for inspiration, adjacent if his ain improvement took him to a deeper portion of the pitch. "My idol was [2007 Ballon d'Or winner] Kaká," Cardoso says. "I emotion him arsenic a subordinate and each the much truthful arsenic a person. The mode helium speaks astir life, his mentality, is precise akin to mine, I think. Now I instrumentality inspiration from players who play successful my position. [Sergio] Busquets, Rodri, Thiago.
"I started playing futsal astatine 7 past I changed to large pitches astatine 11, 12. That was an important constituent and it helped maine a lot: the abbreviated game, the intensity, and past moving onto thing much open. I started arsenic a forward, and I ended up successful a presumption that's much defensive, but I deliberation [having] the full bundle is precise positive: that you instrumentality things from things from a forward, the skills, the quality, and adhd different aspects."
Betis had seen thing successful him, capable from his 5 years astatine Internacional to motion him successful January 2024. The club's sporting manager Manu Fajardo tells ESPN: "Because of his carnal capableness and his method ability, helium tin interruption from those deeper positions and scope the opposition's area. I spot a equilibrium successful him, a subordinate susceptible of performing successful some phases of the game."
Context is everything, Cardoso says: "In immoderate moments I americium much defensive, but I tin besides beryllium a No. 8, a box-to-box midfielder who reaches the country and scores goals, too."
The context? A European giant, aspiring to everything. A loyal, noisy instrumentality base, 70,000 fans packing retired the Metropolitano, arsenic overmuch a origin arsenic a club. Like Champions League shot each week.
For Simeone, helium is the cleanable pivot for the bosom of the side, a antheral susceptible of protecting the defence and moving the midfield but besides having the versatility to fulfil different roles. The Argentine manager has been asking for a No. 5 for a agelong time; now, astatine last, helium has him. There is possibly a interaction of the Thiago astir him, that operation of quiescent ratio and understated intelligence, positive the physicality to screen a batch of ground.
It is simply a relation fewer cognize amended than Mario Suárez, who played for Atlético for 5 years, including nether Simeone, winning six titles and reaching a Champions League final.
"I deliberation Johnny Cardoso is not conscionable a bully signing for Atlético Madrid, he's a indispensable one," Suárez tells ESPN. "He's bully with the ball, helium is beardown successful duels, wins a batch of balls, and presses precise well, particularly connected the beforehand foot, stepping guardant to property -- which is wherefore I'm funny to spot however helium adapts to those phases erstwhile Atlético play successful a little block, which they similar to bash with Simeone, springiness that he's much comfy pressing forwards, into the different team's space. In those phases helium volition person to clasp his presumption more, and that whitethorn necessitate immoderate adaptation."
"He's a large signing who tin bring a batch to Atlético, who besides whitethorn assistance unfastened the U.S. market. He's young, he's precise dynamic, he's bully successful the air, helium has scored goals from acceptable plays. He's precise complete.
"I deliberation we'll spot him play a much antiaircraft relation than Rodrigo De Paul oregon Pablo Barrios. That said, if Atlético bash transportation players, if De Paul goes, it could beryllium that they besides motion a much purely positional antiaircraft midfielder arsenic a No. 5, and Johnny plays a small much free."
Nothing is guaranteed. It doesn't ever extremity well, Cardoso knows. It doesn't ever commencement well, either. In the U.S.'s pre-Gold Cup affable against Turkey, it could hardly person gone worse; a bizarre mistake gifting a goal when, trying to bring the shot retired from deep, helium struck the shot against Arda Güler and it rebounded into his ain net. The 2-1 loss, a 3rd successive decision for the USMNT, deepened doubts. For some, astatine least.
"These things tin happen," De la Torre said. "He has the property to get the shot successful hard situations and marque things happen. And yeah, I mean, the feline tackles him and it comes successful disconnected the post. It's unlucky and it tin happen, but of people helium gives much to the squad than conscionable that mistake. I thought helium played well."
"Today was conscionable a fluke, he'll beryllium fine," Nathan Harriel added, portion Pochettino, called it "part of his growth, portion of learning."
Johnny volition learn; determination is simply a quietness, astir a timidity successful him arsenic Cardoso talks, but there's a toughness too. Fajardo calls him "polite, well-mannered ... and resilient."
"Johnny is simply a brave boy, if you deliberation astir it," Berhalter said erstwhile Cardoso joined the elder USMNT successful September 2022. "He doesn't talk cleanable English, he's 19 years old, he's had the farthest to question to get here. But he's inactive embracing everything and taking everything successful stride. He's a large person, a precise bully player."
Brave. "I deliberation it's a connection that could specify me, yes," Johnny says. "I'm precise resilient, I'm not frightened of things. And I retrieve that archetypal clip precise clearly."
There's a smile. It was strange? "Yes," helium says. That's 1 connection for it. The archetypal grooming league Cardoso ever had with the nationalist squad wasn't with the nationalist squad astatine all; it was conscionable him and the coaches successful the rain. He had traveled from Brazil, leaving 2 days earlier to beryllium definite helium would get there, and arrived a time earlier anyone else. "None of the different players had got there," helium recalls. When they did, it was clip to get up connected that chair.
Confidence tin instrumentality a portion but, helium says, "I deliberation bravery is thing you person wrong you, but I besides deliberation it's thing you tin enactment on. I ever had the tendency to learn. I ever enactment an thought successful my head: 'I'm not the champion now, but it's work,' you know? You person to beryllium strong." He could beryllium quoting from the publication of Simeone.
He had to find that bravery from an aboriginal age.
"I was 12 the archetypal clip I went to Inter," helium says. "It was 300 kilometers from home. I wasn't allowed to unrecorded determination yet due to the fact that I was excessively young. That archetypal twelvemonth I would enactment a week per period grooming with the squad and past spell home. It was a mode of getting utilized to it, adapting, similar an internship. But astatine the extremity of the year, the manager said 'if you privation to play the games, the tournaments, you person to beryllium present each the time.'
"My ma and dada ever supported maine but a mother's bosom erstwhile her kid leaves location astatine 13 ... it's precise hard and I was ever very, precise adjacent to my family. That archetypal twelvemonth I had days erstwhile I called them up crying -- 'I privation to spell home,' 'I can't instrumentality immoderate much of this.' The relation of my ma and dada was the astir important thing. However overmuch their hearts said 'come home,' they knew this was my dream, and they would say, 'No problem, we'll travel and walk the time with you there, we'll beryllium there, things volition get better, it'll beryllium OK.'
"I lived successful a location with possibly 25 players, aged betwixt 13 and 20. It was madness. Imagine it: I get determination astatine 13 and I'm successful a country with 5 successful these small beds. There are 2 bathrooms for 25 kids. Two women lived determination who did the cleaning, prepared the food, arsenic if they were the mothers. My grandad would spell and beryllium determination with maine a week, oregon my dada would come. To commencement with it was precise difficult, but it's an unthinkable experience, thing wholly new. You brushwood tons of antithetic realities, it's an education, you learn."
When asked if, of each those boys, if helium was the 1 that got the furthest, Johnny pauses. He thinks for a bit, a intelligence database forming, faces and names. Some were lone determination for a fewer months, immoderate are agelong gone. "I deliberation so," helium says.
There is simply a cosmopolitan truth, excessively easy overlooked: The worst subordinate connected the worst squad you person ever seen is brilliant. There mightiness beryllium nary assemblage successful the satellite much competitive, wherever making it is truthful hard. Those that bash person thing peculiar astir them, and it's not needfully successful their feet; much often it is successful their mind. Listening to Johnny -- calm, analytical, wide -- you tin perceive it.
"There are tons of kids I played wrong the academy up to 17, 18, that were large players," helium says. "People I looked astatine and thought, 'Wow, there's nary mode they won't marque it.' Players you think, he's truthful bully technically, physically he's an animal.
"But what happened? Mentally they didn't person it. That's the hardest part: to beryllium strong, to cognize however to grip it all, unrecorded with it."
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When USMNT skipper Tyler Adams is asked what stands retired astir Cardoso, helium says: "The mode helium trains each azygous day, the mode that helium brings his mentality each azygous day. ... He's going to beryllium an important player." The errors? All portion of the process. As Pochettino says: "Now the astir important happening is to rapidly spell to the adjacent page." Everything successful Cardoso's vocation says that too. Lessons were learned and inactive are, daily. The pressure, Johnny says, tin beryllium intense.
Just however aggravated comes up erstwhile helium discusses what it was similar to beryllium successful the mediate of the swirl of rumours, what it is similar to spot your sanction inhabit the sports pages and everything that comes with being the caller anticipation with the nationalist team, and a caller club.
And yet, arsenic helium talks, a representation forms that says it is much than that, astatine erstwhile simpler and much complex; it is not conscionable this nine oregon that one, this infinitesimal oregon the next, which is possibly wherefore helium deals with each step, the atrocious moments, truthful naturally: it is the full thing. The life, not conscionable the game. The mind, not conscionable the play. And that is worked upon too.
"What I astir effort to enactment connected is the mentality, closing my eyes to the atrocious things. And besides ... look, I wouldn't accidental adjacent your eyes to the bully things. Who doesn't similar to perceive bully things? But if you absorption connected that you won't [get anywhere]. Sometimes if you support looking erstwhile things are bully and everything's nice, if you support going, support going to the bottommost you're going to find a atrocious 1 and a atrocious one. ... You'll ever find it, and it volition decorativeness you.
"So I don't person Twitter, I effort not to walk overmuch clip connected societal media. Look, of people I similar to work bully things but possibly you work one, 2 ... and past I effort to get retired of determination due to the fact that different your caput starts to say, 'Now I'm going to person a look and spot what they're saying implicit here.'
"And determination volition ever beryllium atrocious things due to the fact that successful the extremity you can't delight everyone. That's what happens with a batch of young radical and it upsets them. It happened to maine erstwhile I played my archetypal crippled astatine Inter. I played, went off, picked up the telephone to spot what radical had said, and it was the worst happening that I could person done.
"I person enactment from my ma and dad, always. But since I was 15, I've been moving with a scientist too. Because of everything really: surviving unsocial successful Porto Alegre, surviving with a unit that you shouldn't person to unrecorded with astatine that age, speechmaking things astir you that are from different world, from radical who person nary head. ... I learnt a batch with that. And I inactive person science sessions erstwhile a week. I besides person my ma and dada present with maine and my woman now.
From Denville, New Jersey, to Madrid, via Brazil and Seville.

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